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Tim Gunn Says No Way Is Kirstie Alley A Size 4! More Like 8 or 10!

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Sep. 16 2011, Published 2:30 p.m. ET

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By Alexis Tereszcuk - Radar Senior Reporter

Kirstie Alley has been claiming that she's lost 100 pounds since competing on Dancing with the Stars and says she is now down to a size 4 dress, but Project Runway star Tim Gunn says no way!

"I think she's between an 8 and a 10," Gunn told Steve Kramer of Tampa's Play 98.7 That Guy Kramer morning show and RadarOnline.com has the exclusive audio from the interview.

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Alley said: "Before Dancing with the Stars, I bought these dresses from size 14 to 4... all the same dress, and I said, 'You know what I really want? I really wanna be in this dress in a 4'"

"There is a phenomenon out there right now that I call the lying deceptive shell game of vanity sizing," Gunn said. "In fact a 4 is really a 6 or an 8."

The Project Runway host joked "In our heads we're all a double zero!"

Gunn described a sizing experiment he did and the shocking results.

"We took a size 8 dress from 1980 one from 1990 and one from 2000 and compared them and the difference was two and a half inches in the waist alone!"

Gunn complimented Alley on how she looks, just not on her dress size claims.

"She looks fabulous. People are too size conscious. It's all about how you look and more importantly how do you look in your clothes!"

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