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What has changed most about your life recently?
Well, I don't have a job. What is blowing me away for the most part is when I walk down the street, or when I was in line to vote, people come up to me, hugging me and shaking my hand, and they are not just all gay people. I didn't do it to be a "hero," which some people are calling me. I'm uneasy with that word, but it's been humbling. It's just weird because I never thought in my wildest dreams that I'd be in this position.

Is it odd that people suddenly recognize you?
It is. When I'm going out to lunch people take second looks, like they know me and are trying to figure out where from.

What did you think when you first saw Ted Haggard on the news denying he knew you? At one point, he says, "What's the guy's name again?"

Yeah, that was amazing. With all the money and resources they have, I was shocked that he was speaking for himself. He has always done that, he has always wanted to be in the limelight. I mean, this is the church he built. He couldn't help himself and—you know what?—that's what did him in. The first time he said, "I don't know Mike Jones," I thought, Well, that's the easiest part to prove.

From what I heard on the audiotape, it sounded as if Haggard was desperate to connect with you. He sounded like he had a real passion for you. He was even willing to work around your schedule.
I've gotten many voice mails from him through the years, but I never kept them. I had no reason to, because I didn't know who he was. But I kept those last two messages, and they kind of got me in hot water, because he wanted me to score some more meth for him. Apparently he lost his other contact.

Are you sure he just wasn't interested in saving your soul?
Yes, I am certain. We never discussed religion at all.

Is Ted Haggard a bottom, or a power bottom? "Well, let me just say ... yes, bottom"People who use crystal meth usually end up doing it on a daily basis. So it seems improbable that he only did it with you once a month.
I don't know. All I can tell you is that once we were a year into the relationship, so to speak, he usually did it every time he saw me.

Do you think he was doing meth before you met him?
You know what's interesting? He acted stupid when he first got it, like, "How should I do it? What do I do with it?" And I was like, jeesh. I would fall into the trap and show him, like he was this innocent guy who was curious. But you know he is not stupid. That's the thing, he's not a stupid man, he just screwed up.

And a bad actor?
Yeah. Definitely.

Could you tell if he was tweaking when you were together?
Well, kind of. He would get this weird glare in his eyes and he'd become much more sensual. When we were together it was usually for just an hour or so.

This is something I have always wondered about: closet cases with wives and children ...
I have no doubt in my mind that they fantasize about men. That's the only way they can get it up.