Rachael Ray and The Tyra Banks Show won best talk show in their respective categories at the Daytime Emmy Awards Sunday night in Los Angeles.

Rachael Ray won the Emmy for best “entertainment” talk show, while The Tyra Banks Show won for best “informative” talk show.

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The win was especially surprising for Ray since Ellen (DeGeneres) has taken home the trophy in the entertainment category for the past three years.